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    Attila Hajzer

    So im thinking about making the big switch, and just kind of sceptical due to the fact that its a lot more money.
    but i do need a new computer. whether its a laptop or desktop.

    i need a new one.

    oh and if anyones interested,


    I’ve been using Macs for… a little over a decade now. I simply love the OS.

    Having said that, Windows 7 has made fantastic strides. I still prefer OS X, but it’s definitely becoming a closer race. If you only do web development, then I would say it’s not a big deal. I love using Coda which is a Mac only program, but I can’t imagine that should be the determining factor.


    At the firm I work for I started with a Mac, then I installed XP on the machine and ran it as a dual boot eventually I just set XP as the default OS and requested a new computer. Now I run a nice Windows 7 machine at work. This really angers a lot of designs I have come across.

    I’m more efficient this way since it is vital that everything be tested in IE, newletters tested in Outlook and helps with troubleshooting issues with customers. Some designers run IE emulators on their machine but they aren’t always accurate. Running Windows inside OS X is just a memory hog.

    If you are a free lancer and can only have one machine get a Mac and install Windows on it, then you can test work on all the major software. Also opens up the door to iPhone development if that interests you. Otherwise if you have access to a Mac elsewhere get a PC, put the money towards CS6 or a monitor upgrade.


    It comes down to what you like and what you need to do. I was a PC for many years — started back when ms-dos was a big deal! I switched to Mac three years ago and will never, ever, ever go back — for my particular needs, OS X is superior in every way. For Zikron’s needs, Windows 7 is the superior way to go. Take a look at what capabilities you require, and that should help make the decision a bit easier. Good luck!


    I was born and raised as a Windows guy, my home/freelance system is a PC running Vista, at work I have both a PC running Windows 7 and I also recently started using a Macbook mainly for editing some Flash files and working on some iphone/phonegap stuff. I wasn’t really blown away by the Mac OS (snow leopard), in my experience of using it (mainly for Flash, indesign, photoshop, Xcode) I didn’t see any advantages (apart from the iphone/xcode stuff) over my Windows system, I just found myself getting frustrated and confused at a lot of the differences. This might just be cos I’m so used to Windows. I’m the only guy at my office who’s primary system is Windows based, I guess it’s kind of the expected thing that if you’re a designer then you should be using a Mac, it’s just the cool thing to do! I consider me and my Windows 7 system to be pretty cool though. I agree with Zikron in that I’d much prefer to save a bunch of money by buying a Windows PC and then get a couple of kickass monitors, or buy a new software suite.


    I’ve just ordered my first mac today, an iMac in fact. I bought an iPad in the summer and got the Apple bug. I’m also learning more and more about web design and think it will replace my old XP system. I can’t wait until it arrives!!!


    My budget only allows for a PC at this time – but I never considered a ‘hackintosh’ approach (Google search has begun :-) ).

    My laptop is soon to die (Sony Vaio – originally Win XP), AC adaptor socket on the machine is loose, and the battery lasts 20mins – but it is 5-6 years old! Since its birth it has had WinXP, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and (currently) Win7.

    I have already built (rebuilt) a PC for future work when my laptop dies (and it’s the only machine capable of running Starcraft II :-p).

    I have access to my girlfriends MacBookPro, and I can see what the ‘hype’ is about.

    So to summarise – I have tried Windows, Linux (Debian) and OSX; I like all of them, each has its own merit. Spend as much as you can on whatever you buy, only the hardware is the real selling point of the machines.


    Build your own PC. I know almost every designer likes their expensive, ego-boosting mac though…

    As was already said, windows 7 is great, not saying it’s better than OSX, but it definitely get’s the job done. Not to mention the side-by-side snapping feature is a godsend.

    I love connecting with other designers, but so far most of them have followed the blind trend of thinking that Photoshop only works on a mac, and thus they are better than the rest of us, which really annoys me.

    I know not all of you apple users are like this, just personal experience from my last design course.

    BTW, as a quick example I am about to build a new desktop, here are the specs:

    CPU: Intel i7 quad – 3Ghz
    GPU: Nvidia GTS250 – 1GB
    HDD: 1TB
    RAM: 8GB

    The cost of all this, including case, power supply and some better cooling is $1075. The Australian iMac (lowest-end model) starts at $1449 and has far less impressive specs than what I listed, hell even the highest end model (without adding your own configurations) doesn’t match my PC build specs, and that iMac is $2399!, justified how!?

    Bottom line is if the price was more competitive I would consider getting one, as for now, no way.


    I just bought a new 27″ iMac (an upgrade from my PowerPC 20″ iMac) and I love it. I have been a Mac user for several years and I just can’t go back. The OS is just far superior for my needs, and you don’t have near the trouble with viruses or spyware on a Mac system. However I do have to admit I haven’t had the opportunity to check out Windows 7 yet. I guess I’m an Apple fanboy, what can I say :)


    Bought my first Mac in 1985, when you had two choices: 128K or 512K. Over the years, I’ve gone from passionate Mac advocate to something more pragmatic. For some projects in the mid-90s I had to buy both systems, along with Director, Photoshop, etc. on both platforms, and it was a management and financial drain.

    Recently I’m working for companies that have a mix of both. The Mac guys just love their Macs, and the PC guys … well, they just don’t understand the Mac guys.

    Here’s how I parse it out for my personal situation:

    Cost. PC wins at home. With three kids, I can’t afford to buy them all Macs, plus software. Just can’t. They get exposed to Macs at school, but everything they work on is portable between the home PC systems on a USB key. Also, there’s a much richer ecosystem of low-cost or free utilities on Windows these days.

    Usability. PC wins for what I do. Little things get to me. On the Mac, you can only resize a window by grabbing the resizer on the lower right window corner. On Windows, I am far more product in the multi-window format, where the application menu stays pinned to the window. I work mostly on two monitors, and on a Mac, always having to travel up to the far left corner of the far left screen to reach a menu item is very unproductive. Yes, I know. Shortcuts keys. Use them sometimes. But I also just use menus. A lot. Just me. So day to day, working in multiple applications over multiple windows, I’m constantly fussing with the Mac and cursing their stubborness over these little things are simply not advantages. I’m much, much more productive on Windows.

    Network setup. Mac is much better here. I’m still struggling to set up my wireless network printing on the Windows 7 machines.

    Speed. Tossup. I work mostly on web projects, so I’m not crunching huge graphics files or doing 3D rendering. Nothing I throw at either the Mac or the PC slows it down.

    Testing. Mac, slightly. By running a Windows VM on your Mac, you’re better equipped to test with a single machine, and that’s preferable by a hair. Trouble is, by doing initial development on a Mac in Firefox or Safari, I’m always, always having to go back and tweak when I finally view it in IE. It’s much more efficient for me to code for IE’s limitations, and when I finally preview on the Mac I’m either good to go or have only a few items to touch. An alternative is to have a refurb Mac mini to do occasional testing on.

    BTW: Windows XP. It’s old. It’s going into end-of-life soon. Get off it. It was OK in its time, but you don’t want to be on XP on a PC anymore than you want to be on OS 9 on a Mac. Windows 7 is just fine.

    Viruses. I keep my virus protection up to date, and I haven’t had any problem for years. Whenever one of the kids’ computers gets infected, the forensics always show they were doing something they’ve been told not to do.

    iPhone, iPod. Over the years I’ve used both Mac and PC with iTunes to sync my devices. Slight advantage I suppose on a PC during the time when I also had a Blackberry and didn’t need a separate music library for both.

    So bottom line, at work, I work mostly on the PC but definitely keep the Mac close for testing. At home, we use PCs and I don’t see myself reinvesting in Macs to change that.


    Just worked out if your lucky enough to be a student (or know someone who is) you can also get a 8gb 4th gen ipod touch free with your mac, if you add the student discount + sell the ipod touch you get a fairly nice chunk taken off the price :)

    I’m actually considering buying one of the new MPB’s.

    I still hold true to my previous comment, it’s still a lot of money compared to the alternatives, but with the discounts I might give it a shot.

    As was mentioned hackintosh is also an option, I have tried it but my OCD won.


    Hackintosh all the way!

    Macs themselves are a rip off. Complete social status. Just look at the specs. If you spent the same amount of money on a pc it would s..t the mac all day.

    I’ve got both and although I prefer the os of a mac they are a money burner. Servicing, new parts, support, everything is soo expensive. As for upgrading, so difficult as most, when they are bought are juts about maxed out. If not mac will charge insane amounts to max it out compared if you were to do it yourselves.

    Apple is having a good run at the moment but more viruses for macs are coming Im sure. Can anyone name me one Apple product that hasnt been faulty in some way…? Insanely overheated batteries, iphones that dont actually work, ipods that break or malfunction.. they all have faults and for that type of money they NEVER should be.


    If social status is your argument, isn’t that how fashion works? Actually, isn’t that how a lot of things work? Clothing, Phones, Cars, etc.

    In the end I think Mac is more creative than PC.


    Actually, on the topic of social status and hackintosh…

    During a client meeting, my colleague pulled out his hackintosh, the client seen OSX and was immediately impressed he was using a mac, the perceived professionalism of using expensive or popular equipment is very interesting and can play a part in getting yourself a good first impression. (even if your expensive mac is just a compaq with an apple sticker on the back).

    As stupid as this sounds I guess it’s just one of those things.. Might have to get an iPad to display their initial mockups during meetings, they might start frothing.


    I totally agree with everyones points about cars etc being status symbols. I myself have fallen victim to these marketing ploys many times and probably will again.

    My point is is that Apple products are overated and their social status is what helps them sell, not how technically superior they are or how they run so much better.

    I live in Asia and the amount of available Japanese, Korean and Chinese gadgets similar to the ipod or ipad, which are normally half the price with better specs and bigger hardrives is copious. And Im not referring to cheap copies of which there are many of them too lol

    The macbook airs as I recall dont even have a cd/dvd drive.

    Like I say I have a mac and it is good but not worth the money I paid for it, no way.

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