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December 21, 2012 at 3:31 pm #118500croydon86Participant
@DrewKerriganNY you make a good point, there definitely are thousands more options available for pc’s. Apple are one company after all, whereas there are many pc manufacturers so this expected. Not to mention components.
Although if money was no option, I wouldn’t say a 3.06ghz 12 core mac pro with 64gb ram and four 512gb ssd drives would be limiting. But agreed, a lot cheaper and more options to choose from for pc’s
December 21, 2012 at 3:33 pm #118501DrewKerriganNYMemberIt’s limiting in terms of it’s hardware expandability and customization options @croydon86, not it’s performance, do not confuse the two.
December 21, 2012 at 3:33 pm #118502Andy HowellsParticipant@drewkerriganny – But my Mac’s are as powerful as I want them to be. Because I knew what was in them when I bought them.
These are work machines, they’re for working, so I will probably not have to upgrade them for years. If I was an avid gamer then of course a PC would be the best choice. But they’re for web development, text editing/preprocessing and Adobe suite products don’t exactly require 30 gpu’s and 41GB of Ram and cooling fans with neon lights.
I bought Mac’s because they’re reliable, my iMac has frozen once in 9 months and ironically it was when I was running Windows 7 in Parallells.
December 21, 2012 at 3:34 pm #118504DrewKerriganNYMember> But my Mac’s are as powerful as I want them to be
No, no they aren’t @andy_unleash. You continuing to say so just proves you are being stubborn on the topic. We aren’t asking if you feel your Mac was a good purchase, we’re talking about how Macs lack hardware customization options in comparison to PC. How you can continue to even argue the fact is beyond me.
Then lets talk about _accessing_ and _modifying_ said hardware. If you’re Mac is “as powerful as you want it to be”, can you overclock your CPU? Can you update your RAM timings? No? Oh man…
December 21, 2012 at 3:38 pm #118505Andy HowellsParticipantBecause if you’re buying a Mac you’re aware of the upgrade limitations and are evidently happy with the contents. Ergo it’s not a problem.
Thusly it’s obviously not a factor in the “trendiness” vs Windows.
December 21, 2012 at 3:40 pm #118506DrewKerriganNYMember@andy_unleash We weren’t equating it to the “trendiness” vs Windows , your original comment took us off that path.
And what you just said, translated was: “I bought a Mac knowing it has upgrade/customization limitations”. So you are acknowledging the lack of options right off the bat, yet still trying to defend them.
Makes no sense, seems fanboyish.
December 21, 2012 at 3:50 pm #118509Andy HowellsParticipantIt’s not fanboyish at all, you’re pointing out your opinion of a problem in owning a Mac vs owning a PC – and I’m expressing that as a Mac owner it isn’t a problem for me since I was aware of it before I bought them and thusly it’s not perceived by me to be a problem.
If it was a problem then I would have bought a PC.
It seems you want me to throw my Macs in the skip because you like to tinker with your machines. That’s great, you’re welcome to want to tinker away and PC’s are clearly the best choice for you but I have no such requirement.
December 21, 2012 at 3:56 pm #118511DrewKerriganNYMemberWho said anything about getting rid of your Mac?
I’m simply pointing out the lack of customization options offered via hardware upgrades. No more, no less. Anything else is a web you are spinning my friend.
You’ve already acknowledged the fact, then prefaced it by saying you don’t care. Well, bully to you good sir.
And yes, blindly defending your position when you’ve already acknowledged what I said as true makes you come off as a fanboy, sorry.
December 21, 2012 at 3:59 pm #118512chrisburtonParticipantYou could just get a Mac Pro.
December 21, 2012 at 4:00 pm #118513DrewKerriganNYMember@chrisburton Yeah, but how many _OPTIONS_ do you have in terms of what types of hardware you can put inside the Mac Pro? That is the point I’ve been making this whole time.
PC = unlimited options
Mac = limited options
Edit: Seeing the Mac Pros makes me miss my G5
December 21, 2012 at 4:03 pm #118514chrisburtonParticipantI think the above argument is pointless. Whether or not you have limited/unlimited options, they both can be powerful tools that gets the job done.
December 21, 2012 at 4:03 pm #118515Andy HowellsParticipant@Drewkerriganny I think you’ve got a bit of a hard on for hating on Macs, man.
December 21, 2012 at 4:04 pm #118516DrewKerriganNYMemberlol I work with one everyday, own one, and have used them since I was a child.
You’ve got it all wrong.
I’ve got a hard on because I’m pointing out one deficiency? Okay @andy_unleash, whatever you say.
December 21, 2012 at 4:05 pm #118517DrewKerriganNYMember> I think the above argument is pointless. Whether or not you have limited/unlimited options, they both can be powerful tools that gets the job done.
@chrisburton You are taking it out of context, you’ll have the read the rest of the thread. And I’ve said many times that I agree.As I quoted before:
> Ultimately, I feel the choice boils down to personal preference.> To quote my mentor: Question: Do you use a red hammer, or a blue hammer to hammer a nail? Answer: Who cares? Just hit the damn nail!
December 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm #118518Andy HowellsParticipantBut you’re basically saying Macs are terrible because they’re not as hardware upgrade able as PC’s. Evidently people don’t care otherwise they wouldn’t buy them.
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