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March 18, 2012 at 10:10 am #37210shamaiMember
today I met someone who is starting to make websites for a living.
he does not know html, css or how to use photoshop. What he does is just outsource it to others for cheap and then sells the website to the client for double.
Im guessing the websites can’t be that good looking.
I mean it just doesn’t feel right to me.
Here I sit, working my brains off, to learn all these skills and this person is just outsourcing everything!?
I like what I do and I don’t want to outsource anything, not until I am forced to, cause I have too many clients (if only)
Will my skills pay off? Or is he the smart one and Im the moron?March 18, 2012 at 10:20 am #99339BlackhawksoMember
Does he tell the customer that he is outsourcing? Because if he don’t then personally I would call him a sharlaton. I believe he will come up against a problem if one of his customers contact him saying that their is a problem with their site. He wont be able to offer a super quick turn around like the rest of us can and it will cost him more money for debugging problems with the site because he will have to outsource it again.
One thing to think about it that I build websites because I love doing it. I love creating something (Might not always be good but I like it). So as I see it if you enjoy building sites then no your not the moron at all and he is missing out in not knowing what really goes into building a site from scratch.March 18, 2012 at 11:06 am #99345tobeeornotMember
I would say there is nothing wrong running a business and outsourcing services provided the clients are aware of how the business is structured and therefore understands the risks involved and the contract between all parties is clear. Plenty of businesses act as intermediaries for providing other services, but it is unusual for them to do so without having core skills as some kind of provider themselves. If you decide to freelance, you will ultimately be a better position than he is, even if you need to outsource, as you will know how deliverables match up to what is being charged. He will be lost and will at some point be stung.March 18, 2012 at 8:02 pm #99383JoshWhiteMember
I would be very surprised if this person stays in business.
Technically, someone who builds a company and hires employees does relatively the same thing as he’s obviously not paying his employees exactly the amount everything cost to design.
But I’ve spoken to enough business owners who’ve had work done by people like this to know that they are never ever spoken about positively (usually it’s “thank God, because I hate those guys” types of comments).
I know a couple of guys who did this very thing – they setup a business in web marketing and accumulated clients without actually knowing how any of it works. They have experience in advertising but that’s it. They can never deliver what the client is actually looking for beyond what I call a “starter site”. Clients get frustrated and move on (to me in some cases :P).
So yeah, there are people who can make a living doing this kind of thing, but not many are actually successful.March 18, 2012 at 8:30 pm #99388chrisburtonParticipant
As long as the freelancers have a contract in place, they’re both meeting the client’s needs and the person outsourcing is paying out then, who cares? He’s employing other people.March 19, 2012 at 6:29 pm #99445joshuanhibbertMember
I too work on some projects where I don’t deal with the client directly. I have built a strong working relationship with a UX designer that contracts work out to me. As long as the ‘middleman’ knows what he/she is doing then I don’t see it as an issue.February 2, 2013 at 9:02 am #123159slicedMember
Keep at it shamai.
They say that knowledge is power and if he is faced with a situation that he doesn’t the answer to, it could all blow up in his face. Or he could make a killing out of it. Who knows.
But if you concentrate on what you know and what you want to achieve, you will most likely end up in front!
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