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    muffakaa
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    We’re working on a site re-design at the company I work at and our designer wants the entire site (logos, headers, content, etc.) to be in helvetica. I happen to like helvetica, but I’m nervous about it making the site look dated. Is that a legitimate concern or am I over-reacting?

    #116948
    GeoUranda
    Member

    Helvetica is pretty popular with the young’uns these days so it will look modern and appeal to the younger generation from what I’ve seen.

    #116961
    Paulie_D
    Member

    Hey, if the client wants it that’s their decision.

    By all means express, gently, your concerns but in the end we do what we are told.

    #116964
    Watson90
    Member

    @muffakaa – I know your pain, man. I am currently working on a website for a client that has his own design, and wants _nothing_ changing on it whatsoever!

    The design IMO is quite terrible and he keeps saying _”I hope it can make a great piece for the portfolio on your website”_ and to be honest, I don’t think I’m going to even put it on there.

    Like @Paulie_D said, as developers, we’ve basically got to do what we are told and if it makes the client happy, then we’ve just got to go along with it, unfortunately in some cases like this one.

    #116967
    PLNR
    Member

    I feel that saying Helvetica is old-fashioned could be equated with claiming the color red is dated…
    I have been witness to instances where, say, a Gothic typeface has been put to great use. It certainly didn’t feel dated.

    Should you want to take a look at some extraordinary typographical invention, check Vaughan Oliver’s body of work. He is the greatest graphical designer ever, a true living genius.

    #116975
    chrisburton
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    Helvetica is a modern sans-serif but it is overly-used. Personally, I find that Helvetica lacks personality but that could just be due to seeing it all over the place. Then again, I think Georgia is one of the best typefaces ever made. Certainly there are plenty of other ones you could use. I wouldn’t automatically just pick one that is most common. That’s just a no-brainer. The site will just look generic with no appeal.

    #116990
    chrisburton
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    @PLNR Depends on how it’s used and what other faces you’re combining it with.

    @jamy_za It certainly is. It’s one of the best typefaces that render incredibly well on screen.

    My current favorite serif is Harriet by Okay Type foundry. Webfonts coming early 2013 via Webtype.

    #117034
    PLNR
    Member

    @chrisburton

    My point’s exactly. A teacher of mine had me design an entire paper on Times New Roman. I modestly say it came out wonderful.

    Composition trumps individual font choices. Helvetica can be put to dreadful, pristine and anything in between uses.

    #117037
    chrisburton
    Participant

    @PLNR

    Too bad you couldn’t have picked something more recent. Although, learning about older typefaces is a great learning experience.

    Gothic typefaces are not necessarily “outdated”. It’s just an old term for sans-serif.

    #117063
    ben_boomer
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    @muffakaa– If you have the ability to voice your opinion to your superior(s) then do it. If you feel that a different font choice is important, come up with some alternatives and have some reasons why you think it should be different.

    At the very least: your opinion will fall of deaf ears

    At the very most: you’ll be taken more seriously, and your thoughts will improve on the design

    Cheers

    #117065
    chrisburton
    Participant

    I agree with @ben_boomer 100%. Give reasons as to why another choice would be better (legibility, appearance, etc.). Make sure to back up your opinions with facts if there any.

    #117067
    ben_boomer
    Participant

    Also, web fonts sometimes list similar font sets to specific (in your case, Helvetica) font faces. Here is a list I pulled up front TypeKit:

    https://typekit.com/lists/alternatives-to-helvetica

    #117071
    muffakaa
    Member

    Thanks everyone for your input. I do trust our designer and 4 years ago I would have been thrilled to just use Helvetica but maybe now I’m just wanting to embed some fonts. I think the solution will be to suggest some other font effects, especially for headings, to make the site look modern. After that I’ll decide if I want to suggest another font.

    #117072
    muffakaa
    Member

    @ben_boomer -that list is great! thank you

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