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IE10 – What do you think of it?

  • # December 12, 2012 at 9:06 am

    @ToxicFire The last time I used firebug lite in IE I had problems but I haven’t tried since. Thanks I’ll give it a shot again.

    # December 12, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Microsoft issue a warning NOT to use their browser (IE 5.5 – 10) because of this vulnerability? Sounds like a great start for them. I honestly wish that all developers would stop supporting it.

    I prefer that Microsoft partners with Mozilla and Google and let the users select which browser they want on their OS.

    # December 12, 2012 at 9:32 am

    @chrisburton – really!?

    It would be cool if Microsoft paired up with Mozilla and/or Google to make the experience better, my favourite browser is still Chrome. Although it has this horrid TypeKit bug _I believe_ that makes CSS-Tricks look ugly =(

    # December 12, 2012 at 9:40 am

    @jamy_za yuh had some issues to more uptodate versions require some finagling to get to work can’t remember why but the bookmarklet on css-trick works nicely

    # December 12, 2012 at 10:12 am

    @Watson90 Yes, really. And CSS-Tricks isn’t using Typekit. It’s using beta webfonts by Hoefler & Frere-Jones.

    # December 12, 2012 at 10:29 am

    I also heard about Microsoft warning not to use their browser, and I happened to share it around my office :). In my opinion, it doesn’t really matter to me how good IE10 is, you still have to develop around all of the other terrible IE versions, so it in nothing revolutionary, but at least a step in the right direction.

    # December 12, 2012 at 10:42 am

    @chrisburton – Ahh right, I see. It must just be the way Chrome renders custom fonts. All jaggerdy and gross looking.

    # December 12, 2012 at 10:42 am

    > I prefer that Microsoft partners with Mozilla and Google and let the users select which browser they want on their OS.

    I agree. Microsoft doesn’t always make it clear enough that people can install other browsers.
    However, while MS is getting bitched at for this all the time, it seems it’s all OK for Apple to do the exact same thing with Safari on iOS (actually, it’s worse because even though you can install other browsers on iOS, there’s no way to make them default).

    Can someone point me to the warning Microsoft issued about not using IE? First time I hear about it.

    # December 12, 2012 at 10:54 am

    @Senff I can’t find it with a quick search.

    @Watson90 Windows renders fonts differently than OSX. It actually looks much better on a Mac but that’s no surprise. I believe IE10 uses the DirectWrite rendering engine which should show an improvement with webfonts. But this is also due to hinting.

    # December 12, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    @jamy_za yeah, I’ve not used their dev tools too much. I have to dig into it properly now I have a Windows machine to test. I was the PM of Opera’s developer tools, so I’m sure I’ll have quite a lot of feedback to give to MS when I have a better idea of the capabilities. Its a good start that they actually exist though. By all accounts, Visual Studio is a great IDE and debugger, so they certainly have the talent to make a top class tool. I’d be surprised if this is not a priority considering you can make Windows apps using web technology now.

    Yeah, IE10 doesn’t support WebGL, but I‘m not sure how much that impacts the average web developer or web site. Its certainly a nice to have feature, and certainly important for games developers, but there were probably more pressing features to add to IE10. I don’t think MS have ever said either way if they are going to implement WebGL or not. They have raised concerns however, and it is standardised in a group which MS is not a member (Khronos) rather than the W3C. That certainly does‘t help for MS buy in I would expect.

    @chrisburton I’d be surprised if MS told people not to use their own browser.

    # December 12, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    I think it’s a bit behind everyone else still I think you should try Firefox or google chrome instead. I prefer chrome

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