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  • #31467
    PeretzM
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    After all the hoopla etc. about HTML 5, the question I’m left with is: When starting a new project, how much HTML 5 should I be using?
    I’m by no means an expert on HTML in general, just basics etc., so is it for me?

    #63188
    TT_Mark
    Member

    Right, well there is no reason you should not be using the HTML5 Doctype on new projects. All that is is:





    You can also start to use some of the new form input types such as “email”, “tel”, “url” etc as browsers which don’t understand them just default to type=”text”.

    Aside from that, it depends if you want to support users without JavaScript, or users with old browsers like IE6 and IE7

    #63192
    PeretzM
    Member

    Thanks TT that was helpful, which got me thinking, is there a list somewhere with all the new tags and what the fall backs are for them? This way we can know which ones to start implementing…

    #63115
    PeretzM
    Member

    What i meant was, what happens if the browser doesn’t support them. for example the form tags that TT mentioned that just default to type=”text”.

    #63116
    noahgelman
    Participant

    Well there’s a javascript file you can attach to your site, and it will make sure all of your tag degrade properly. It’s even hosted by google for you.

    http://code.google.com/p/html5shiv/

    #62910
    Luminated
    Member

    The idea of having to learn on a javascript file loading to ensure my page structure and layout work puts my stomach in knots.

    Sorry, until IE9 is the new standard, HTML5 and I are not good partners yet.

    #62911
    TheDoc
    Member

    @Luminated – I agree with you to an extent. I actually don’t really like a bunch of the new HTML elements (header, nav, section, etc). I think code can look a lot cleaner by throwing IDs on lists, divs, etc.

    Having said that, there is nothing stopping you from using the new Doctype and cleaning some other stuff up. There are also some major advantages to using the HTML5 Doctype for people with disabilities (using screen readers, etc).

    There is more to HTML5 than the new tags!

    #62516
    Luminated
    Member

    Very, very true. I was wondering though, if I use the new doctype, how will validation work?

    #62358
    TheDoc
    Member

    Also remember that it’s not an “official” validation, per se. They are still trying to figure everything out.

    Validation is a tool to make sure you don’t have any glaring errors that could cause issues at a later date. In some cases validation simply isn’t a viable option, especially when you start stretching the limits of technology.

    #62359
    PeretzM
    Member

    w3c has disclaimer about html5

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