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  • # January 25, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    If I have a child element with some margin established, its parent won’t return its actual height ( wont’t count the child’s margin, I mean) when using the command .outerHeight(), unless I establish either (not all) of the following properties to the parent div:

    border:1px solid;

    Why is that? Which of these properties should I use (..and why ‘-‘)? Should I do something different? Ty in advance. Here’s the code:








    So, if I put either of those css properties i talked about earlier(in #login selector) it would work out fine , but not sure why ‘-‘. In this example the form element(.form selector) has a margin that causes its div parent not to calculate its height right.

    # January 25, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    That’s correct behavior. And for the record, padding-top would also work. The child’s margin extends outside of the parent unless the parent is given a new block formatting context. You’ve hit most of the ways to do that. I personally would use the overflow: hidden;

    # January 25, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    Ty wolfcry911, but what do you mean by “new block formatting context”, and how do these properties accomplish that?

    Just to be sure: the property “display: block” doesn’t fix my problem, so this property doesn’t accomplish the “new block formatting context” criterion you said?

    Ty =]

    # January 26, 2013 at 8:02 am

    this might help explain it:

    # January 26, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    If you want everything of the div to be calculated, pass value ‘true’.

    so your code will look like: .outerwidth(true) or .outerHeight(true).

    It will calculate the margin too. :)

    # January 26, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    no it won’t. The parent doesn’t have the margin and doesn’t encompass the child’s margin – unless you establish a new BFC

    # January 27, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Ty you all guys, think I have finally figured it out.
    I tried checking the website you suggested wolfcry911, but couldn’t grasp much from there, so i tried searching some other sites (many.. so can’t ref them all here) besides some of the css official documentation ( ( and the conclusion I had figured out (I think) is:

    Since I dont include padding, border, or anything else before the form’s margin, **its margin will collapse with the #login’s margin**, so if I had included a “padding: 1px” property in #login, it would also work out, since the collapse wouldn’t be allowed anymore =]. That is also the reason why the ‘border’ property I mentioned earlier would also work.
    As for the display properties, it’s as wolfcry911 said: they create a new block formatting context, **which doesn’t allow margin collapsing either**, and that’s why it works: the form’s margin remains inside the #login block, instead of out of it, collapsed with its own margin, so the outerHeight can be calculated as I expected =]

    In the end, it was all about “margin collapsing” properties, which by this day I’d never heard about ‘-‘

    Ty again guys o/

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