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Ok. I can’t gnaw on this any more. For some reason the answer does not seem straight forward and being a novice I am not sure where I am going wrong. I am just trying to get a ul with 5 li to a) vertically align and center in itself and b) center to the middle of the page. I know this can not be that hard. This is just sandbox to work things out so the code is probably a mess.
font: 20px verdana,sans-serif;
here is the fiddle if you are interested.
Sorry. I figured it out.