cgntoonartist

# February 21, 2009 at 8:14 pm

Hello Folks,

:?:
What are the main similarities & differences between Espresso and Coda? AND
What are the Pros and Cons of each app?

I am considering purchasing one of these, but I am not that familiar with them.

Cheers

Rob MacKay

# February 22, 2009 at 6:41 am

I think most people I know would say go with Coda – although I have no real logic to tell you why :D (I know I would buy coda… but im on a PC lol)

Im sure that wasnt very helpful at all LOL

TheDoc

# February 22, 2009 at 5:38 pm

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Another reminder to me that I’m supposed to give the Coda demo a trial…

box

# February 23, 2009 at 11:01 am

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Take a look at TextMate too – it’s the daddy of text editors on the mac. You can trial TextMate and Coda (Espresso is still in development), so have a good play with each before you buy.

pab

# February 23, 2009 at 7:30 pm

a few friends have tried espresso and swear by it now, definitely try all three text editor mentioned above, it really depends on your work flow

davesgonebananas

# February 23, 2009 at 8:12 pm

I am currently PC based, though I’m experimenting with running Leopard in VMware in order to trial Coda and Textmate. Having tried them I think I would switch to Mac in a second, but at the moment I just can’t afford it.

For my web dev I currently use Notepad++ with some addons (Explorer and FTP mostly).

Other PC people – what text editors do you use / recommend?

box

# February 24, 2009 at 3:45 am

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The closest thing to TextMate on a PC is e-texteditor – it’s well worth a trial.

Rob MacKay

# February 24, 2009 at 4:22 am

I like dave, use notepad++ I used to use dreamweaver, but it wasn’t lightweight enough.

cgntoonartist

# February 24, 2009 at 3:44 pm

"box" wrote:

Take a look at TextMate too – it’s the daddy of text editors on the mac. You can trial TextMate and Coda (Espresso is still in development), so have a good play with each before you buy.

I agree. I am just trying to get feedback from people that have tested them already. Good feedback is very useful.
Anyone?

cgntoonartist

# March 23, 2009 at 1:18 pm

Espresso 1.0 is available!
http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
I am going to check it out.

Cheers!

daGUY

# March 25, 2009 at 12:13 pm

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I’m trying out the Espresso demo – it’s really good, with lots of nice little touches.

The tag auto-complete is exceptionally well done. Examples:

1. Typing "<p[return key]" will generate "<p></p>", smartly placing the cursor in between the tags rather than after them, so you can type in content immediately.

2. You can type out a full tag manually, and then the instant you start to close it, it’ll finish it for you. So if I type "<blockquote>whatever</", the instant I type the slash, it finishes it off with "</blockquote>". The thing is, you’d be closing the nearest tag manually anyway (otherwise the document wouldn’t be valid), so it makes perfect sense. Brilliant.

Some other thoughtful features:

– "Quick Publish" will auto-upload your file to the server every time you save it. You can toggle it on/off with one click
– Wrapping a link around selected text will automatically fill in the HREF attribute with the contents of the clipboard
– The Find feature is identical to Safari’s, with the popping yellow bubbles

Etc., etc. They really seem to have thought of everything.

I haven’t used Coda so I don’t know how it compares in these regards. But Espresso definitely seems great so far.

falkencreative

# March 25, 2009 at 3:16 pm

Just thought I should point out… Espresso is part of the MacHeist bundle (though it is the last app to be unlocked) and in previous years all apps were (as far as I know) unlocked. Looks like a good deal. I’m a big Coda fan, and switching to Espresso seems a bit unloyal of me, but I need to download the app and try it out. I did try it out when it was in Beta, and definitely found it lacking, but perhaps it has been improved in the 1.0. Ultimately though, I think the competition is good, and Coda can only grow stronger as a result.

http://www.macheist.com/bundle

daGUY

# March 27, 2009 at 11:31 am

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Yep, I’m waiting for it to get unlocked in the MacHeist bundle. The whole bundle is $25 less than Espresso alone at the regular price! And you get a full version that can be upgraded and everything.

brianatlarge

# March 27, 2009 at 12:38 pm

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I tried out the Espresso trial and have decided to stick with Coda. The biggest thing I couldn’t get over is with Espresso, you can’t just set up a ftp login to connect to a server. You have to create a local folder for your project. My workflow consists of working off a local linux box with apache, and then using git to push my changes to the live server. I don’t work off my local machine, so I need to be able to just set it up so I can connect to a server and work from there.

I dunno if I’m not doing something correctly, but that’s the biggest issue I had with Espresso. As far as editing text, it seemed very similar to Coda.

cgntoonartist

# April 1, 2009 at 2:22 am

Check it out! I just got Espresso for only $39 plus other software.
http://www.macheist.com/

What an awesome deal!!!