Re: CSS framework crutches!

[DarkMantisCS]

@msguerra74 Just for the record, I’m a partial creator of the CMS/Framework that @rgcouk is using, and the self-closing HTML tags is perfectly valid http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/syntax.html#syntax-elements : See Start Tags #5

I have been working closely with @rgcouk to get this site working as he wants, and I’m not sure how much in-depth development experience you have had, but generally, there is a team of people who work on a project, a front-end team which is what rgcouk is part of, so he deals with the designs directly, and a backend-team which is myself and a few others. We deal with the data manipulation and template parsing to HTML.

So as for your comment, “Create a framework from ground up” is a redundant comment at best, as that is exactly what we have done.

The same way that your site uses jQuery and jQuery UI, I’m sure you didn’t write them, and I know a lot of people who can use jQuery but have no idea how to do anything in raw Javascript.

As for CSS Libraries and Frameworks, there is no reason why you can’t use them, if they make your life easier, why create something that is already there, which does everything you want it to. I can understand from a learning point of view, but there is no other real benefit.

@theacefes using snippets is a great idea in principle, but the issue I know a lot of people have is the dependencies that the snippets have on other code (More with Javascript/PHP, not so much CSS, but can apply to all languages in principle). So in a lot of cases it could take just as much time to sieve through all of the dependencies as it would to use the framework.