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I'm in love with Neue Helvetica… please help.

  • # September 29, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    @traq

    Not sure why that was double posted…I never did that intentinially…actually I didnt even do that…weird

    @chrisburton

    Thanks for the resources…will have to take a look

    # September 29, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Not sure why that was double posted…I never did that intentinially…actually I didnt even do that…weird

    hmm – I’ve noticed some on-and-off problems like that (e.g., posting a comment, which doesn’t show up, but I can’t try again because the forum says it’s a dupe). Just today, in another thread, @Melindrea had an issue with one of her posts disappearing (and then later reappearing after she re-posted it).

    wonkyness!

    # September 30, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    wonkyness

    Same here.

    Ed
    # October 1, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    I’m starting to think the thread starter is long gone. Joe_Temp now sobs gently, in front of his computer screen, staring numbly at a Neue Helvetica specimen sheet filled with the typeface he loves so dearly, but is just out of reach. Will he ever know peace from this pain?

    # October 2, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    I’m starting to think the thread starter is long gone.

    Well, you can’t expect a guy named Joe_Temp to hang around forever.

    # October 2, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    :)

    # October 4, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    This thread made me giggle… I had a Helvetica good time LOL

    # October 6, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Hi! I know this thread might be dead but I thought I would give some input as well since it might help someone. You see, when working with type it all boils down to licensing of the font-files rather than the typeface itself. A typeface in itself cannot be copyrighted and in theory if you were to trace a typeface by hand and make your own font file out of it you could use this font as much as you like without paying royalties, even without alterations. A lot of typefaces have done this and are largely based on older typefaces two famous examples of this is Arial which is modified version of Helvitica and Helvitica itself which is based on some 1800s Grotesk typeface which’s name eludes me. Wiki it for a good read some day.

    This means that there are actually a rather large amount of typefaces floating around that are identical to Helvitica but are named differently since the name is trademarked. What I would do on a zero budget is to look around on opensource font sites and find a good Helvetica clone and simply use it. A lot of them have pretty good kerning and ligature. Check out: http://www.google.com/fonts , https://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com or sites like http://www.fontsquirrel.com/ .

    Also, Helvetica isn’t that great, to me it feels so corporate and Orwellian that I can hardly stand to look at it and when designers constantly resorts to standardized defaults it just looks so dead. http://endtimeheadlines.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/they-live-billboards-messages-john-carpenter.jpg

    # October 6, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    @Ozego

    Are you referring to Neue Haas Grotesk? I only know that by having studied Font Bureau’s typefaces. (http://www.fontbureau.com/nhg/)

    Keep in mind that this is a multinational forum. Some countries do respect copyright for typefaces. Also, in the United States, the software (font) itself is protected under copyright and so are the outlines (see Adobe vs SSI).

    # October 6, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Yes. Neue Haas Grotesk seems to be the one.
    And you’re absolutely right, the copyright is really complex especially since even in places where typefaces cannot be copyrighted they can still be trademarked like the cocacola or general electrics logos or contain glyphs or dingbats which can be copyrighted. So be careful! Get lawyers to check everything! Or at least read the wikipedia entry on it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protection_of_typefaces

    But as a vague rule of thumb free fonts are safe to use on images and if it has an open license it should be ok to embed, even if it is a clone.

    # October 6, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Exactly. Always consult with a lawyer for these sort of things. It is better to invest in legal fees rather than pay an individual or company compensation from a lawsuit.

    NIX
    # October 26, 2013 at 11:14 am

    Well, you can’t expect a guy named Joe_Temp to hang around forever.

    HA HA HA HA! +1 @Traq

    I’m still here and I must say, some of the responses to this are hilarious.

    # November 18, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Linotype limits the number of page views! You can only license the font for a certain number of visitors

    What about if using cufon YUI?

    # November 18, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Why would you use Cufon? We have come a long way since Cufon.

    # November 18, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    i have helvetica fonts, but not used for web..

    if i want to use it for web, what will happen after exceeding the limit of page views?

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