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  • # January 20, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    i’m a third year student and in order to get into my 4th year i need to get some work experience, i’m living in sweden and i’ve been looking for months and no one seems to want to take a chance on me because they are too busy to take the time to help me learn or they just aren’t bothered to hasle themselves, (which is what i think anyway) i’ve told them i’m willing to work for free and i do have a good bit of experience already. anyone have any ideas on what i could do to intice an employer or something?

    # January 20, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    If you have a combination of a solid portfolio AND willingness to work for free, you should really have no problem finding a job. Just make sure you have a solid portfolio to show them, or they may not risk wasting their time.

    # January 21, 2009 at 2:48 am
    "stray" wrote:
    i’m a third year student and in order to get into my 4th year i need to get some work experience, i’m living in sweden and i’ve been looking for months and no one seems to want to take a chance on me because they are too busy to take the time to help me learn or they just aren’t bothered to hasle themselves, (which is what i think anyway) i’ve told them i’m willing to work for free and i do have a good bit of experience already. anyone have any ideas on what i could do to intice an employer or something?

    I am in the same boat, I don’t work in IT but I want to change my career to IT particularly web development, although I mainly learned java.

    I noticed that no one would give me a chance unless I had a degree & 3 years commercial experience, so I thought, I would get the 3 years commercial experience by starting my own small business making websites. it gets you experience, it is a low cost way of gaining more money, and you will gain clients, and experience, then if you make more money than you thought, then just keep running the business hehe

    # January 21, 2009 at 3:45 am

    As others are saying, your best bet may be to get some experience making sites for local organizations (perhaps pick a non-profit organization that needs some help?). Also, consider being active online, posting on forums, in other people’s blogs, and perhaps even writing some articles on web related subjects. Add to your portfolio and actively demonstrate knowledge in the field, and it will be that much easier to find placement.

    # January 21, 2009 at 6:23 pm
    "ikthius" wrote:
    I noticed that no one would give me a chance unless I had a degree & 3 years commercial experience…

    I have to say that I really think this is changing now. Having a degree is slowly becoming meaningless (I don’t mean the knowledge that you learn while in school, I mean the piece of paper they give you afterward). I know many people (myself included) that didn’t go to school for web development/design/whatever and have a job in that field purely based on portfolio.

    # January 22, 2009 at 2:43 am
    "TheDoc" wrote:
    "ikthius" wrote:
    I noticed that no one would give me a chance unless I had a degree & 3 years commercial experience…

    I have to say that I really think this is changing now. Having a degree is slowly becoming meaningless (I don’t mean the knowledge that you learn while in school, I mean the piece of paper they give you afterward). I know many people (myself included) that didn’t go to school for web development/design/whatever and have a job in that field purely based on portfolio.

    I just said through my experience, every job I try for, don’t give me any chance of even looking at my CV/ portfolio.

    Thats why I made up my own business, and I am glad I have a financial company as one of my clients, this will help my portfolio for future applications

    # February 1, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Out of interest how did you go about setting up your own business? And have you had any difficulties doing so?

    I fear all the hurdles that come with it. Contracts, setting rates, chasing pay, taxes. Mainly all the legal bs which unfortunately is really important.

    # February 2, 2009 at 1:37 am

    If I remember correctly, I started primarily using this book (Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/How-Start-Home-Ba … ef=ed_oe_p) Obviously, whether the advice in the book applies to you depends on where you live… I believe the book covered primarily setting up a U.S. based business. It doesn’t go into a huge amount of detail, but I found it to be a good starting point and it set me up with some of the basics (contract, invoice, etc) that helped me get started. A lot of what I’ve learned about the business side of things is simply due to getting out there and getting my feet wet without too much advice, and learning as I go. Luckily for me, I don’t depend on my freelance work as my sole income, so I’ve had the opportunity to learn and grow without the pressure of having to make a certain amount of money per month.

    # February 2, 2009 at 2:50 am
    "acialk" wrote:
    Out of interest how did you go about setting up your own business? And have you had any difficulties doing so?

    I fear all the hurdles that come with it. Contracts, setting rates, chasing pay, taxes. Mainly all the legal bs which unfortunately is really important.

    Tax is not an issue, I have not even earned near what you would have to to pay tax, howeverm I will be looking into this as I think it looks a bit more professional.

    I just looked into businesses with thte same name, and at the time (I searched for over a month) I could not find one the same as mine, even checking the companies register.

    our job is easy to set up, we don’t have any real overheads, so setting up is simple and cheap.

    the problem is getting paid/clients and stuff.

    I have learned that I will take a 10% downpayment to begin work, then get the 90% at end
    I will host the site to see if the client is happy with site, but in a sign in to my site way, to stop stealing of my code.
    I will use php in some areas so that my code can’t be all be stolen.

    but I will be making an appointment with the business gateway (UK) to get it all finalised and get extra help

    # February 2, 2009 at 12:09 pm
    "ikthius" wrote:
    I have learned that I will take a 10% downpayment to begin work, then get the 90% at end
    I will host the site to see if the client is happy with site, but in a sign in to my site way, to stop stealing of my code.
    I will use php in some areas so that my code can’t be all be stolen.

    That’s actually rather low. Most of the freelancers I know require a 50% deposit.

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